I LIVE IN SHAWLANDS IN GLASGOW.
Yes I do.
Really.
And I have a problem with that.
But it is not what you think. The problem is that where-I-live keeps vanishing!
Let me explain: go to yell.com and do a search: a “Pub” in “Glasgow” called “The Granary“. Here’s the results I got when I did this…
| 1 results for “Pub” and “The Granary”Matches located in Glasgow or find your nearest The Granary10, Kilmarnock Rd, Glasgow, Lanarkshire G41 3NH Tel: 0141 649 0594 |
Did you notice that Yell have added the word “Lanarkshire” – they are saying that Glasgow is in Lanarkshire! Glasgow? Are they serious?
Glasgow is not what it once was, but it is still BIG (in fact it is presently the fourth largest city in the entire UK). And it is NOT in Lanarkshire!
A century ago Glasgow was the second city of the British Empire after London — and as The British Empire was the biggest empire in history, so Glasgow was once the second city of the planet! Glasgow is and always has been the Biggest City in Scotland. It has always been its own burgh with its own council and four cathedrals. To put things into perspective, Glasgow has Five Football teams and a national stadium at Hampden (near Shawlands and NOT in Lanarkshire). The entire residential population of the city of Inverness could be comfortably seated inside any one of these stadia! How dare they lose all the regions within Glasgow, and how dare they diminish this historically great city in such a way!
Hey, look — I got a leaflet from the tourist board, from which I quote:
“By road or Rail Lanarkshire is less than an hour from Glasgow and Edinburgh”[PDF of Lanarkshire leaflet]
It takes me an hour to drive to Lanarkshire. Glasgow is Glasgow. And “The Granary” is in “Shawlands, Glasgow” — NOT “Glasgow, Lanarkshire”!
- But Shawlands does not exist as far as Yell and The Yellow Pages are concerned.
This is unbelievable. Things might be getting worse, but how bad is it when where-you-live can get lost?
This is a Major Disadvantage
Imagine you wanted to search on yell for a Pizza in Glasgow — is that unreasonable?
The results cover a staggering area of over 100 square miles! On the first page are restaurants in the City Centre, the West End, Cumbernauld, and even East Kilbride! Yell is Useless!
The Problem is Getting Worse
The trouble is that Yell do not seem to be the only people who use this (probably American) software — you might have noticed that some of the Google map links also add “Lanarkshire” — we also have all sorts of problems getting deliveries for things bought on-line. Often the web forms automatically add “Lanarkshire” and subtract “Shawlands”!
Shawlands is a well-known and Important Part of Glasgow
OK, just in case you are thinking that Shawlands is a tiny or insignificant place. Well that is very wrong indeed:
There are main roads in and out of Glasgow, and one of the longest and most central is the A77. From Cowcaddens at the North of the City Centre, the A77 is Renfield Street, then Jamaica Street, bridging the Clyde as Bridge Street, and continuing southward as Pollokshaws Road, through Eglinton Toll/ St Andrew’s Cross, to Shawlands Cross where it becomes Kilmarnock Road. On crossing the boundary from Glasgow to East Renfrewshire at Giffnock, it becomes Fenwick Road then Ayr Road then Fenwick Road again at Malletsheugh and over the moor as it travels into East Ayrshire and onwards.
Naturally, towns and villages have sprung up along the A77. It was the main route for Glaswegians driving to the beaches at Ayr, Girvan, Saltcoats and Troon as well as England.
Most of these are suburban conurbations of Glasgow — but they were mainly residential/ dormitory areas, and so Shawlands holds incredible importance as being the first city-like area — with restaurants, pubs, clubs and flats. Shawlands has two rail routes, and is close to the two main motorways, the National Football stadium, the Victoria Infirmary, and Langside College.
Further south have traditionally been designated “Dry Areas” where pubs and alcohol have been forbidden, so people have traditionally come from miles around to shop, work and have a night-out in Shawlands. It can also be considered as a stepping stone to the city centre (which is only 3 miles away).
Shawlands connects with the largest public park in Scotland, and has many parks and green spaces of its own. As a result, Shawlands is one of the best known areas of Glasgow. Especially known for it’s restaurants and nightclubs. It is also one of the most desirable areas to live for the broadest cross section of people and families, which is reflected in the house prices and rental market.
Summary
Shawlands is a bustling area of Glasgow, and Glasgow is the biggest and most populace place in the entire country. Lanarkshire is full of sheep and grass and is miles away by motorway. Lanarkshire is a “day out”. Glasgow is NOT in Lanarkshire. Is that clear?
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9 July 2007 at 1:20 am
Sublime.
Genius.
True.
About time somebody spoke oot.
Have you see the hedges debate?
Lovin yer wurk
Big John the jobbie wheech-er
taxi fur lanarkshire….???
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12 August 2007 at 4:00 pm
pish, mate. ‘probably american’? aye, good one. nothing to do with the english county system then? great. yell don’t let you search by postcode? shame.
12 August 2007 at 11:40 pm
Paul, you are soooo mistaken if you think the English country system has EVER had anything to do with Scotland! Can you really be such a numpty! It MUST be an American system because pure UK sites (eg banks) don’t have the problem. I see it with Yell and Google Maps the most. Yell might do a search by postcode, but will return results “in the vicinity” of Lanarkshire, which is sh*t. Tell you what, why not read the post and do a search yourself, then compare your results with the information here!
Why do people even bother to comment when they are so mentally challenged is one of the most amazing features of the web.
Shawlander, keep on going man, you are delivering a quality product! I got your feed.
15 January 2008 at 4:08 pm
Sorry, mate.
Glasgow used to be in Lanarkshire. The post office – and Yell – still use historic counties.
Check your postcode.
16 January 2008 at 12:31 pm
@Danny McFadden
I was intrigued by your comment, so I visited the Royal Mail website (http://postcode.royalmail.com/) to see what would happen.
The form asked for as much information from four options. *Building Number *Building Name *Street and *Town.
So I decided to check the postcode for Tassie Street, Glasgow.
The results page returned seven pages of addresses, including a range of postcodes — and not one mention of LANARKSHIRE!
See For Yourself, visit their site and type in Tassie Street and Glasgow.
I clicked on the first result listed and the page changed to a map for the following address:
0/1
5 Tassie Street
GLASGOW
G41 3PX
So what are you going on about? GLASGOW IS NOT IN LANARKSHIRE — the evidence I provided in my post proves that, and my postcode check confirms the fact. Yell and Google are wrong. You say that Glasgow once was in Lanarkshire, yet all I can find on the subject is that the city of Glasgow was part of Lanarkshire for three years from 26 August 1889 until 1893. You could better argue that Glasgow was part of Strathclyde from 1975 until 1996. So what is Yell (and the rest) up to?
16 January 2008 at 5:03 pm
Royal Mail is exactly same as The Post Office
http://postcode.postoffice.co.uk/portal/po/postcodefinder I did the same thing and got the same result.
2 February 2008 at 12:12 am
Who cares whether Glasgow is in Lanarkshire or not, the fact is Yell REMOVED Shawlands. There is a conspiracy to rub Shawlands out.
20 March 2008 at 10:53 am
very nice web site. My English is not so good, so I do not understandt it well, but it seems very good. Thanks
4 May 2008 at 9:07 pm
After 7 years as a resident of ‘hip and happening’ Shawlands it is with a heavy heart that I say I am moving on. However as I still have a last few days in this chic leafy Glasgow suburb I will find some time for nostalgic meanderings. I still have time for a Deanston Drive assault course. What’s not to love about the mile long walk around the dog dirt, the old sofas, the toilets, the plants, piles of laminate flooring, Pavement parked cars and kebab cartons. How sad the hearts that can not enjoy navigating the old street like an Olympic speed skater. I plan to once more walk along Kilmarnock road to see if I can locate constellations in the few hundreds thousand pieces of chewing gum resplendent against the black tarred pavements. How I will miss the mysteriously disappearing leaflets newspapers and flyers which pick themselves up and bin themselves weekly and the comforting noise of a door being slammed time and time again shaking the close to its foundations instead of using the key. It’s going to be a wrench.
But then again should I dry my tears and think myself as lucky to have sold my flat. It could have all turned out so differently with estate agents and lawyers firms commenting ‘oh Shawlands? It’s become a little bit shabby really hasn’t it’? And with all this talk of credit crunches the money might not be there for a flat in fly-tipping alley. Imagine if word got out and house prices tumbled. It couldn’t happen surely.
How I will reminisce thinking on the Shawalnds scenesters sitting at home admiring their gigantic flat screen t.v’s next to their new Ikea Kandinski artwork before then stepping over the newspapers and magazines on their way out to dump the box on the street in front of their palaces. It leaves me to wonder … what is real intelligence? Is it based on academics or is it an awareness of your environment and the part you play in that? Goodbye Shawlands! I may come back when you are better dressed.
21 July 2008 at 2:56 pm
Glasgow is in the historical county of Lanarkshire. If you check the Royal Mail website, it won’t mention Lanarkshire, but that’s because counties haven’t been a necessary part of anyone’s address since 1995, so it will also “tell” you that Norwich isn’t in Norfolk!
And the Royal Mail certainly won’t mention Shawlands either! Though it’s pretty ridiculous a search for Pizza in Glasgow will give you options as far out as Cumbernauld.
So it’s pretty dumb for Yell to be using Lanarkshire as a reference, but it’s not actually incorrect.
17 September 2008 at 7:57 pm
aye Douglas, I was always told Glasgow was in Lanarkshire – same as Cumbernauld was Dunbartonshire and not really the relatively newly created political maps of North Lanarkshire, Glasgow and the old Strathclyde etc. Yell is pretty crap, but then I’d search by postcode and not use shawlands, partick etc as you’d get a better result. EK possibly comes up as its a Glasgow post code (G75) , like Cumbernauld (G67).
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16 December 2008 at 12:33 am
I really don’t know how you feel up there in Shawlands as I live in Greenock, Inverclyde and quite a lot of the time, have the county of Renfrewshire, which it has not, not any more, it is the county of Inverclyde that I live in, not Renfrewshire, but a lot of delivery companies and Royal mail still display the county that I live in as Renfrewshire.
30 December 2008 at 11:15 am
It takes me an hour to drive to Lanarkshire. I would like to know which way you drive, and avoid it at all costs. I travel to Lanarkshire twice a week to visit family and it only takes me 10 min to get from Tantallon road to Rutherglen which is now Lanarksire. I would also like to mention that most of Lanarkshire is included in the Glasgow conurbation.